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Do you use a fingbox or something similar to monitor your network?
Something I overlooked when switching from Eero to Google.
Eero has a service, for a fee I *might* be getting for free as a Prime customer. (this is not a deal breaker)
I actually used it once, a hazard of apartment living is someone trying to get free internet.
Eero notified me of a new connection to my network . I had the option of approving it or blocking it. I checked it out and it was a phone I did not recognize so I blocked it.

I have my new Nest router but don't have the cable I want to relocate it. 
I hope nest included a monitoring service but I don't remember seeing it as a feacher.
Next would be something like a fingbox or the free (it's for me) download. Sharkwire? IDK.
 

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I use my internet service providers box (my electric service provider has gigabit fiber now) and it has built into it a option to enable wifi monitoring so any device that tries to access the router via wifi after its turned on is reported via e-mail to me. It has several options to allow the connections without approval, don't allow at all, allow if i give it permission to do so. I really like there router as it has wifi 6, beam forming tech and tri-band wifi. Also has mesh wifi for full coverage of the house.

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You got a good one Larry!  Our ISP up here gave me a joke of a router and I instantly turned it into a dummy and brought in my Asus.  Matt, I feel like you'd be pretty protected...and anyone who's trying to get free internet likely won't have the resources to hack through your Nest's security.  Not that it's super hard...just I can't imagine many people being so motivated and capable of getting through security like that needing to save the money....you know?

 

Having said that...it happened to you once...Wireshark allows you to track and trace packets.  It's more meant as troubleshooting than it is for identifying new devices.

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I would love to have a firewall box with two RJ45 ports which I would place between my own WiFi Access Point and my ISP box.    I'm sure there are Linux distro's that are designed for such and you could use one of those $70 small computers.  Then I'd do things like the following:     Hmm, no wait, that capability would have to be put in place in the WiFi Access Point as the network traffic between the WAP and the ISP box is already aggregated so I couldn't isolate domains to devices.

I'd like to see what URLs my various devices visit.    For example, if I had any IP cameras, which I don't, I'd like to know if they are sending any traffic out of my LAN.    Is my WiFi wall switch doing anything funky?    Yes, I realize it doesn't have much of a CPU but it does have one.

When I get a home automation hub what domains is it passing traffic to?

On a regular basis I look at the devices that are DHCP clients of my WAP using the app on my iPhone.    So far no surprises.     I did do the KRACK update on my WiFi Access Point a while back.

I also tend to trust that lots of security researchers are monitoring the traffic between my Google Home Mini's and Google to see if there is anything unusual.  Such as audio being uploaded when the Home Mini is not supposed to be listening.   I have the Home Mini's set to beep when they start and stop listening.

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I downloaded a mobile app called "Who is on my wifi" and it gave me the option to kick somebody off my network. It literally says "kick somebody off my network" and not block.

Just the other day there was a Fire Stick on my Wifi and I don't have a Fire stick so I gave them the boot. I haven't seen a strange device since. I think it must be a next door neighbor because the wifi signal is strong and by eliminating some of my neighbors, I *think* I know who it is.

results: Got'em

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9 hours ago, AYL_Brian said:

LOL!

So now...how are they getting on?  Do you think they pulled your WiFi password somehow?

That has to be. It's the only way I know how it can be done.

Total assumption:
One of my neighbors worked for a bank but I don't know at which level.
She may have been in a higher level and had the info or knew somebody that did. My SSID is easy to figure out it's mine and I wouldn't put it past her. She once asked me how I get TV so I told her I have an antenna and only pay for internet to get everything else. She told me she was paying cable over $200. I'm going to probe her a little just for the S&G. If she starts to sweat I'll know. ha ha The funny thing is if she asked me I would have said yes. We get along but she has been exposing a second face, lately.
All my other neighbor don't know the difference between a modem and a router. Literally. Most of them are around 70. Yeah, no shit. It's where we handicap people wind up when we can live on our own.

Anyway, if you compare this picture with the last you will notice one less signal that mirrored mine. IT WAS MINE! LOL

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I noticed 2 AP's
I don't have 2 yet.
I hope they are referring to 2.4 and 5.0 but if I use the menu they show two frequencies in the 2.4 range. ugh!

 

 

EDIT: Android 2 is back. I didn't change my password. Password is changed now and I have to change all my stuff. 

 

 

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I tried the whole regular consumer home WiFi and Router thing for years.  But as a I build out my home automation and general techy house I found my initial home network just got over loaded.  I often had 50+ devices on my wired and wireless network.  (And I had a really good setup!).  Things like Nest Door bell dropping, Google Home hubs and mini's and Chromecast having continuous wifi connection issue (really random stuff).  My old system had fairly good network monitoring features.

So to fix it, it said to my wife "I'm going to buy my way out of this frustrating problem" (thank goodness she agreed 🤓). So I purchased and set up a commercial level home network.  All network and WiFi problems have totally gone away.  I installed a full Ubiquiti UniFi network with a bunch of wired managed LOE network switches and 3 wired POE UniFi AP"s.

It was/is a steep learning curve... But what an amazing set of tools and features to monitor traffic for everything.  It tells me what devices are on my network, what each is using for bandwidth, which sites (Netflix, YouTube, etc) what everything and everyone is using.  I allow certain devices to only connect on 5 and others on 2.4 based on signal strength I can see at each device.  I can even assign certain devices to attach to a specific AP.  It  even tells me which AP is being influenced by my neighbours signal and channels.

I have no regrets and can highly highly recommend.  All my network problems have disappeared.

Likely not a solution for everyone, but wow what a difference.

 

Bruce

 

 

 

 

 

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I feel like I'm back in one of those industrial buildings I used to spend time in...except your setup is way nicer @Bruce Mac!

So which devices are we seeing here?  I see the QNAP (storage for smart home?), a Bell router (which I'm curious to find out whether or not you had to upgrade this), the Unifi 24...26 port network switch, and what is sitting on top of those?

Impressive stuff!  I have so many questions, so I guess you better be ready to spend hours and hours writing! 😄

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On the subject of WiFi security there is vulnverability called KRACK Attack.   Now it took the vendor of my five year old Wireless Access Points at least six months to introduce the patch for my specific model.    Now if your ISP supplies your WiFi then hopefullyh they've updated the firmware but who knows.  

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I buy my own modem and router just so I don't pay the rent charges from my ISP.

I have been buying these routers from companies who have a good reputation for upgrades. Dlink, pfft!
I had Asus and a Synology router (AC1900 ?) Eero and now the Nest router. Somebody should stop me because I'm eyeballing Amplify and their newest offering, already.

The one thing that is lacking in a Nest router is the documentation. to tell you what features you have and how to access them
I haven't found the network management tool yet, although, I admit I haven't looked very hard lately.because it doesn't come with a lot of user controls to help you customize it to your environment. My only gripe, other than that, it's pretty awesome! It not having a lot of user controls is my fault, Someday I'll have to start reading between the lines and not the hype.

 

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